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Greetings All,
My wife and I are in the process of bringing home our son from Guatemala as we speak. If anyone is curious as to how the process has gone, or what it entails, I'd be happy to share our experiences with it thus far.
Cheers,
-Mike.
My wife and I are in the process of bringing home our son from Guatemala as we speak. If anyone is curious as to how the process has gone, or what it entails, I'd be happy to share our experiences with it thus far.
Cheers,
-Mike.
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Re: International Adoption
Wed, October 11, 2006 - 7:11 PMMike,
Congratulations on the addition to your family!!!
My baby is 4 today! Can't believe it - she came to us at 3 months.
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Re: International Adoption
Thu, October 12, 2006 - 4:56 AMThanks a lot! We're quite excited to get the little rascal. He'll be 11months old on the 18th, and we hope to be traveling this month. He just got some teeth in that are quite visible in the newest pictures we received.
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Re: International Adoption
Wed, October 18, 2006 - 11:57 AMCongratulations! My husband and I can't wait to adopt! Although I have ahd a hard time finding any agnecy in Seattle, that is reputable and does adoptions from Guatemala. Can you give me advice? How was the process for you? I would love to hear more about your expereince, it could really help us out. We are planning on starting the process next year. -
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Re: International Adoption
Wed, October 18, 2006 - 2:16 PMHmm, well I can see what our agency would recommend for your state, as some agencies aren't registered in all 50. However, it was a relatively straightforward process choosing our agency, they were licensed in our state, came with glowing recommendations, and were a non-profit (some can get very $$). They also were very upfront about working with our family (I am over 25, but my wife is not, and 25 is often the minimum international adoption age required by most countries). So we were somewhat limited by that, and some agencies told us that it simply didn't work well with their 'system.' The recommendations were the most helpful part, and it helped that by being in-state, we could cut down on the cost of mail back and forth when we got to the dossier-preparation phase. Our agency is FTIA (ftia.org).
One thing that is important to keep in mind, is that there is a possiblity that adoptions in Guatemala could be changing, as there are legal disputes regarding their signing of the Hague Convention (it probably would change their private foster-care system to something government run, most likely orphanages ). GA (Guatadopt.com) is a pretty informative website on where things currently stand (and they have great t-shirts!). Most people in process would probably be grandfathered in anyways, but for some people interested in adopting from Guatemala in the future it could affect them.....
I'll try to be as helpful as I can!
Feel free to contact me on AIM (in profile), and in the near future, SKYPE. -
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Re: International Adoption
Fri, October 20, 2006 - 11:00 AMThanks for the websites, they did lead me to an agency that may work, very cool! Also, how did you face the obscene costs of adopting internationally? I have found websites for grants but wasn't sure how many people actually are awarded with money. Any advice? Also has anyone out there adopted from Haiti or Ethiopia? I am interested in both of these countries, but don't know anything about them. -
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Fri, October 20, 2006 - 5:59 PMYou're quite welcome! Well, to put it bluntly, we didn't buy a new car! Um, we did look into several grants, but in the end they were small potatoes with what we needed. We ended up taking a mortgage line of credit loan (home equity), a fixed rate loan with payments that we can overpay on as needed. My employer (UND) also will give 3k for every adoption completed , with a maximum of up to two per year. That helps, but again there is the Adoptive Tax Credit, which will help us come tax time, but its not like we get 10k back or anything. We've been hoping the lottery or that whole me suddenly becoming independently wealthy thing will come through....(not likely!). Most countries do vary by program cost, and in country fee. Guatemala has one of the highest in country fees, at around 19k, whereas Russia and Ukraine are near 11k, and Kazakhstan is around 9k. I don't know much about Ethiopia or Haiti's programs, but they have rich wonderful histories, and surely have children that need a good parent or two. Actually, Guatemala has its own group of free-slave-derived peoples, the Garifuna. Our first referral was for a garifuna girl named Igiburi (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garifuna). But someone else was ahead of us in the queue. We'll be happy to help out baby Ché.....
From the numbers I've seen, those countries are pretty far down the list in terms of # of adoptees/year. I think to be honest, some people go abroad to NOT choose a dark-skinned child, but they're just idiots. There were several waiting families that had passed on Igiburi for that very reason, which seems crazy to me. My wife always said that at this point she'd take an anteater wearing a hat!
Best of luck,
Mike & Liz
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Re: International Adoption
Fri, October 20, 2006 - 8:08 PMSusan, I have a dear friend who has adopted 2 girls from Ethiopian orphanages. I can ask her some questions, as we're getting together next weekend. Anything specific you'd like to know, or just generalities?
Beautiful, graceful, little girls. The oldest is about 6, and has an American name now. But the youngest, at 2, was given a name by her birth mother (who died from AIDS-related complications) that means "she who will live to majority." My friend didn't have the heart to change that one, since she's the only one from her family who may do just that! So we call her a nickname that's pronouncable....she may want to change it later - as the nickname is Badaboo (pronounced bad-a-boo), but for now, it works. -
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Tue, October 24, 2006 - 1:55 PMOh I am so sad I didn't check this post before the weekend! Thank you so much for your offer to get information, and I would love to hear more about it if you happen to see her again. You may have read earlier that we are just fresh in starting the process and just discovered another local agency (Children's House International) that was just licensed in Ethiopia. I would love to adopt from there, but don't know a thing about it. We will be going to a meeting Nov 4th to learn more about their program, but an insider's view would be much more helpful to me.
I am mostly curious about how the gov't perceives int'l adoption there. I don't want to start adopting from a country and then have the gov't cancel int'l adoptions (as I have heard of happening in Columbia and other Latin Am. countries). Also did she pick her girls up? Did she adopt seperatly or both together? What is best? I am afraid to go from a no-child household to a 2 child household overnight...Lots about this process scares me as control seems very limited for us as adoptive parents. I am also wondering about the costs, are they average, less or more expensive? How long did it take her to go throught the process?
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Tue, October 24, 2006 - 3:00 PMWell, no worries...I'll see her again this weekend, as she's having a Halloween party. This much I know already:
They were adopted separately - I know the baby was 18 months old when she brought her home. Her older daughter (who is 6 now, I think) was maybe 2 or 3....not positive. I do believe she worked with the same orphanage each time, but I'll check.
I know a few families who went from no-child to 2 child households overnight with domestic fost-adoption....definitely a major change, but I don't think it was terrible. I do think it helped the children, having someone there from their past, whether bio or not.
I'll find out more this weekend.
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Re: International Adoption
Mon, January 1, 2007 - 6:28 PMHappy New Year! My wife and I had a great Christmas present! We flew down to Guatemala on Dec. 17th, and have been home since Dec. 21st. Everything went very smoothly, I've got some pictures posted here (from our wonderful hotel room):
www.nd.edu/~mbruesek/che1.zip
www.nd.edu/~mbruesek/che2.zip
He's adjusted very well, and we're sleeping great (at 13 months he's sleeping 10-11h/night)!
Cheers,
-Mike.
I'd recommend the GC Marriott to anyone, even if they're just down there for travel, its a 5 star hotel!
